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Post by vitugglan on Mar 29, 2021 13:11:04 GMT -6
There are things that would be fun to discuss and even speculate over, IMO. For instance, we know from the trailers that Sam has the shield at some future point. When? How? What about our New Normal Cap?
And, what about this guy? I don't like him, he's got an attitude, but I understand he's a Cap in the comics, too. He almost seems to be a Super Soldier already, though the red-hand brigade did finally kick his butt. What's the deal with him?
What about this 'Brave New World' after the Blip has been undone? Are these bad guys actually good guys?
Anyway, want to discuss?
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Post by Admin on Mar 30, 2021 1:16:32 GMT -6
Not so sure that he's normal. Apparently they tested him in the recent past (probably as a prelude to having him take the job) and his scores were up there with what Rogers would have done. That isn't from being a "good ole Georgia boy, clean living, etc". Somehow I don't really think all that muscular outline on him and Battlestar is Kevlar in the suits. Would not doubt that Mutt and Jeff have a pair of enhanced skeletons in their lockers (so to speak). I mean, look at the difference between him flinging the shield and Wilson. Walker throws with the strength of Rogers (or Barnes, for that matter). Part of Wilson's problem with the shield is like he said "I do what he does" (pointing at Rogers) "just slower."
And, yeah, Georgia boy has a rather large chip on his shoulder (even though he gaslights pretends that he doesn't). A lot of what I'm getting from him is that he's hiding something that he really doesn't want folks to find out (and... points to conversation in previous paragraph). Quite possible even his bosses in the DOD have no idea of this.
The Flag Smashers (the red hand brigade) are bad guys. Just like Hydra, AIM, The Ten Rings, The Mandarin (the real one, not the one we saw in Ironman 3), COBRA, the Brotherhood of (Evil) Mutants, Humans First or any other group of "freedom fighters" who take it upon themselves to kick over the soup pot and throw gas on the fire and up the level of chaos. Because the five years of The Blip were not days of peace, love, Age of Aquarius, doe eyed folks in love beads, head bands and bare feet circle drumming and singing "Hakuna Matata" while sharing blunts and brownies.
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Post by vitugglan on Mar 30, 2021 13:47:53 GMT -6
I get that the Blip wasn't good for anyone. We saw that in WandaVision and Endgame. The MCU, however, has switched other things up. Take Civil War. From what I understand, the comics were solidly on Steve's side while the movie seemed to plump for Tony's. They might throw in some different message - the gov't is messing things up badly now that people are back and this group is 'standing up to the Man'.
By 'new normal Cap' I meant the idea of a 'new normal', things being different for good after a catastrophic event. Probably should have hyphenated it. I was watching his performance and I also think he may have some enhancements hiding in that buffed-up skin. His performance was just a tad above even above-average - too fast on the reactions, a hair bit too strong.
As for what he's hiding - could just be a poor personality that turns people off and he's afraid it'll come out in spades with all this attention focused on him. The way he talks must be the way he's always talked, and he just sounds like a jerk. This is only a six-parter, so if it's something else besides being Jerk of the Century, it'll have to come out fast.
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Post by Admin on Mar 30, 2021 16:49:26 GMT -6
And I wasn't referencing the comics. The bits and pieces picked up in Endgame and WandaVision plus extrapolating from the various responses from what I've seen on the news of other countries and their handling of the past year.
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Post by vitugglan on Mar 31, 2021 5:41:34 GMT -6
Oh, so now you're saying the MCU is prophetic in a parable sort of way. I see how it is. The Blip, either the MCU Blip or the recent/current mini-Blip are not good for anyone except perhaps politicians to rag on one another over its handling. I'm betting these seemingly young people who may not even have been near adulthood at the start of the Blip five years before had some sort of perceived benefit - smaller classes, maybe, though if half the teachers were dusted that wouldn't hold true - and so want to re-create it in some way. In their own minds and the minds of others like them, they're doing a service. Most bad guys don't think they're bad guys.
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Post by vitugglan on Apr 3, 2021 7:46:43 GMT -6
With Spoilers.
Okay, so saw Ep. 3. Some edge-of-the-seat stuff while they're visiting Madripoor. It's one of those Star Wars types of den of villainy etc. where poor Sam has to drink something with snake guts in it. Baron Zemo is... I don't know what to think of him. He's rich, he's a good fighter, he has tons of cool old cars (that I covet) and an ancient servant (how was that guy getting paid all that time?). He comes off very well as an ambiguous sort, the kind you don't trust but who, so far at least, has come through. Love the coat, too.
Plot advancement: super serum had twenty phials. All stolen. Apparently, the researcher has been able to duplicate it without all the fuss and bother of a machine, and later on, Karli describes its initial effects as painful.
Karli. Karli says she wanted to be a teacher, but then blows up a building with trussed-up captives inside, startling her companion. IMO, if anyone's the 'evil mastermind' type, it's her, not her buddy who at least nominally leads this Flag Smasher group. His reaction to the explosion, something like, 'There were people in there!' makes me think he'll be more, um, sympathetic? to Our Heroes once they tangle. Karli's obviously a problem.
Wakanda wants Zemo. That's where it ends, as it should. Interested to see what comes of this development.
Vague analysis (which I'm not very good at): This is the first of the two middle episodes, probably the start of the second act if this were a film. Our Heroes should be trying out a resolution that causes more problems. I think this fits with the addition of Zemo to their ranks. They didn't do much with our New Cap and his sidekick, but I think that subplot will end up echoing the Karli/Beard Man plot with New Cap as Karli. This sub-cast had a try and fail at finding Karli's group, then disappeared from the episode early on until near the end when New Cap makes his startling (I forget what it was but his buddy was taken aback) pronouncement about Sam and Bucky. This brings in a second complication that must be resolved in the next three episodes. Since the trailers showed Sam slinging the shield, I expect that New Cap and Sidekick will be demoted and Sam will take up his rightful place as Ruler of the Unive... the new Captain America.
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Post by Admin on Apr 4, 2021 0:47:47 GMT -6
Don't remember what the drink it called, but it is a real drink. And, technically, not snake guts. Its the still beating heart of a cobra in a Very Potent shot of booze. Considered an aphrodisiac and virility booster. Damn, the things you pick up watching Food Network. Most spit take inducing line of the series.. WILSON: I can't run in these heels!! Just in case you're interested. I found thisedited (5/7/21) to add: finally found the name of the drink. It's "just" snake wine which is a wine that has been infused with cobra by basically pickling the creature in the wine for months. Then, a small amount is poured into a shot glass, a live cobra is caught, separated from its still beating heart which is dropped into the drink and a bit of the snake's blood is also added for that added kick of ick...urg!.
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Post by vitugglan on Apr 4, 2021 10:53:57 GMT -6
Ouch! I would never work in a restaurant that houses live cobras. Even if I don't have to deal with them for the job, what if they're freed - earthquake, drunken brawl - and I'm standing there? No. Heck no.
*cringe* At least they use the whole snake. I'm guessing the snakes are 'ranched' in some way so they're more like venomous cattle than something brought in from the wild.
Not eating there. Not gonna. I'll stick to something familiar and a little less danger-fraught, like McDonald's in the middle of a racetrack with only a crosswalk for access.
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Post by Admin on Apr 9, 2021 1:25:22 GMT -6
They need to wind up in Texas during "Rocky Mountain Oyster" season and then it'd be Barnes' turn. At least, I don't think they'd have him eat that raw.
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Post by vitugglan on Apr 9, 2021 6:28:06 GMT -6
Lol! The ex had such on many occasions, having been raised on a ranch. Fry it up with some chorizo and viola! (<-- another dyslexic moment from my childhood, btw) Lunch.
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Post by vitugglan on Apr 10, 2021 7:24:44 GMT -6
Did you see that? Oy! Did you see that! Hayward is a puppy compared to this series' villains. Threatening Sam's sister and nephews was way out of line and shows that Zemo's right about Karli - she's a supremacist and a terrorist and any good she does is overshadowed by the bad. She's bad. She's terrible.
And she's a pale shadow of dear New Cap. He's bad, and he made himself even worse in this episode. You know what he did even though they didn't outright tell us. Teasing a bloody shield didn't even begin to compare to what actually happened. I was shocked. I knew what he'd do about a minute before he did it and I was still shocked at the thoroughness of it. You knew he'd go rogue in this episode because of the villain's stubble look but, oy! He needed a full Viking beard with braids and beard charms. RIP Lemar Hoskins. He was the only person who could curb Walker's worst side. The whole world was, indeed, watching. At least now we know how Sam may regain the shield.
The Dora Milaje made a spectacular appearance, showing that even Super Soldiers and their wannabe kin can be taken down by ordinary people with good training. Good luck, Baron Zemo, they're still looking for you and maybe prison was the best place to shield you from them. Shouldn't kill other people's kings.
IMO, Karli can go two ways now. She saw what happened in the square and she was scared. Will she clean up her act, not continue on the path she saw amply illustrated, or will she think she's different even though Sam told her what she was becoming? She also lost her moral compass, the only person she seems to trust and confide in, the only person whose opinions seem to matter to her. Not talking about the woman who took them all in, she appears to have taken the wrong message from that woman's teachings, I'm talking about Beard Man who has been her Lamar throughout the series so far. So now we have two enhanced individuals without Steve's moral outlook on the loose. Will they destroy each other or learn from what happened in the square?
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Post by vitugglan on Apr 24, 2021 7:34:57 GMT -6
Meh. The finale was decent, tied up loose ends, put out strings toward the future, but it was very uneven yet again. That's been the Achilles' Heel of this series - it goes from good to mediocre and back again over and over. Too much talk and down-time. Positives: it didn't make the baddies two-dimensional. It showed depth and nuance in the characters and their backstories that logically lead to what we see on-screen. I did like Bucky flirting with Sarah. I like that she flirted back or at least was pleased by it. I liked that Sam got onto Bucky about it but not Sarah. Brothers, MIRight? I liked (to hate) New Cap/U.S. Agent. He's nastily ambiguous. I was sorry to see Lamar/Battlestar get killed off. He was Walker's brace and shield. With him gone, New Cap was out of control. I liked their backstory of being buddies in the war even though the husband (rightly) pointed out that, by their ranks, they probably wouldn't have had much if anything to do with each other in real life. I'm doing Marvel's work by making them either friends because their wives were in the same knitting group or they themselves were on the same bowling team back in garrison, or they were childhood friends, or something, anything, to get them together. They worked well together as characters, and I think the actors worked well off of one another. Good pairing. The chief baddie. Her story was good, it showed reasons why she felt they had to terrorize the entire planet. She's young so you expect a certain lack of forethought. She showed a lot of sincerity in her expressions and voice. She seemed to actually regret what she was doing. What put her over the edge as an irredeemable villain was that she still thought that killing people was all right so long as it furthered her agenda. She had to die. Her compassion ended where her fanaticism began. The actress did a good job of showing the nuances since she didn't get a lot of dialogue or chatter about her positions. I hope they bring both this actress and the Battlestar actor back in the MCU or somewhere. They're good at their craft. Elijah got a stereotypical character arc. The actor did what he could with it, bringing it above what the writers gave him. I would like to have seen a little more between him and Bucky at the end, just to wrap that old animosity up. Sam. Bucky. I like that Sam rose above the current debate over race and decided to do what was right. I like that he was protective of his sister and I like that she sort-of dismissed it and went her own way. I like the way Sam and Bucky interact, and that the actors also seem to share some camaraderie along those same lines. They worked well together and I believed that the characters were able to intuitively understand where the other one was coming from and how each would play into the scheme. Even though I don't think this was Marvel's best offering I do think they effectively spotlit characters who were only B-string in the movies and made them accessible. Zemo. Gotta love that character! His contribution made sense, and I loved his action sequences. I hope we see more of him. Spoilers: Yeah, the murderous Flag Wavers, the core group who were perpetrating the terror, had to die. I'm not sure if the soldier who put them in the vehicle was one of them or if he was just lulling them into a false sense of security. If it was the latter, what is the group that soldier works for? Will they be a problem in the MCU later on? Sharon Carter. The husband called it. I thought she'd be more ambiguous going forward but they tagged her as an outright villain almost immediately. I was displeased. Her aunt and Steve were such good and patriotic people, it was a slap in the face that she'd want to sell weapons and secrets against U.S. interests. I don't like her, and I don't like her deceptively innocent looks. I guess they'll do the character good going forward but I don't like her in that visceral way that I don't have toward Walker. Her reinstatement opens up a lot of possibilities for the future of the MCU. I dread seeing more of this character. The actress did a good job, though, in making me actively dislike this character. I don't care that the character was done wrong. She has a fatal flaw that made what was done to be deserved, IMO. Visceral, I know, but that's part of story-telling. Like Loki in the Eddas, you like him, you're sympathetic, then he goes too far and you just dislike him and that you ever did like him. Iago in Othello, too, same way. With the stated agenda of the writer's group, it played out as it must have. Not too happy with people pushing their politics like Soviet propaganda. It doesn't wear well, and it doesn't age well. There are examples going back to WWII and before of the same sort of thing. Think Disney wartime cartoons or the little morality pieces that are shown to children in grade school. Christian movies come to mind - they make the faithful happy but they're second-rate entertainment because their agenda is writ large. Subtlety is the name of the good entertainment with a message game. Always, show, don't preach.
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Post by Admin on Apr 25, 2021 23:07:24 GMT -6
Well, you know how movements and organizations get infiltrated... Hydra in the Nazi government in the 30s and 40s. Then the various countries after that, along with the SSR/SHIELD. I've always thought (kinda my own personal headcanon) that Stain... Stane was part of Hydra. Granted, as far as we know Hydra is gone. But there are always others willing to step in that power vacuum. If that soldier works for the Power Broker, he would have knows the proper thing to say to get them to lower their guard.
And, we don't know if Contessa is affiliated with PB or if they're going to lay a foundation for the Dark Avengers (Walker was part of that in the comics).
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Post by vitugglan on Apr 26, 2021 13:40:04 GMT -6
Well, they introduced U.S. Agent so they'll probably get a couple of movies or TV shows out of the Dark Avengers. Young Avengers, too, since they introduced Wanda's kids and Isaiah Bradley (grandson, see I do occasionally remember right!)
I totally missed that it was Zemo's butler who blew up the truck. I thought it might have been that soldier or someone working for the Power Broker or the Contessa.
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Post by Admin on Apr 26, 2021 17:04:34 GMT -6
Rich guys and their butlers, huh? lol... Thinking of the unofficial undercover work Howard Stark dragged poor Edwin Jarvis into....
Actually, by the time the episode was done, I was just glad Bucky was still alive. The last two weeks or so, quite a few pieces were speculating how Bucky would die.
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Post by vitugglan on Apr 27, 2021 6:11:58 GMT -6
Bucky's not going to die, at least not any time soon, IMO. He's popular and Sebastian Stan is a fan favorite. We must go to different sites because no one I was hearing or reading even suggested in passing that Bucky might die.
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Post by Admin on Apr 27, 2021 14:23:33 GMT -6
I was finding these articles in the middle of the night from scrolling through the phone. Which was part of the reason they never showed up posted here. Because I didn't feel like writing the website down along with the clickline to find them on the desktop later.
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Post by vitugglan on Apr 28, 2021 7:03:07 GMT -6
What I do in those circumstances is email the link to myself so I can pick it up on the computer. I don't know if you can do that with the same email account (that is, me@somemailsite.whatever to me@somemailsite.whatever) but I do it with my Google mail to my ISP mail.
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Post by Admin on May 3, 2021 19:32:45 GMT -6
I have tried it and, for what ever reason, it didn't work. I'd get the notification in my mail client for my phone, but nothing ever showed up in the email I sent it to. And I wasn't misspelling the email or accidentally putting the wrong extension after the dot. So, I dunno what was going on other than the email Daemons got fat on my inadvertent offerings.
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Post by vitugglan on May 4, 2021 7:52:26 GMT -6
That's weird.
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